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Post Reply New Fall Titles: GIRLS und PANZER and Magi
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YES! Thank you sooo much! Been looking forward to Girls and Panzer!
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u got magi?! u got me !
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Magi!! love that one ^^
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I was looking foward to Magi. Shame CR couldnt get the rights for down under. Sometimes I wonder why they cant secure them... cost too much? Other companies have an interest in them? It'd be good to know
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Nyanako wrote:

I was looking foward to Magi. Shame CR couldnt get the rights for down under. Sometimes I wonder why they cant secure them... cost too much? Other companies have an interest in them? It'd be good to know

Don't Siren Visual and Anime News Network Australia do a limited amount of streaming? I wonder if either of them could turn up with it?

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Nyanako wrote:

I was looking foward to Magi. Shame CR couldnt get the rights for down under. Sometimes I wonder why they cant secure them... cost too much? Other companies have an interest in them? It'd be good to know


Three basic reasons.

(1) The production committee has split the international rights into distinct global regions, or the international distributor has. If a country is not in the same license offer as North America, Crunchyroll will not be able to get the rights on a single contract. It seems likely the tendency of the broader TV Tokyo contracts to be worldwide outside of Asia is one of these split region issues.

(2) Someone else has acquired the rights or is in negotiation for the rights. And given that broadcast and home distribution royalties are much bigger than streaming, "in negotiation" for broadcast or home video generally trumps a streaming licensee ready to sign on the dotted line. We sometimes see European rights with strange carve-outs that look suspiciously like a broadcaster or one or more of the Animax-Europe channels has expressed an interest in a series.

(3) Crunchyroll is sublicensing the rights, and the original licensee only picked up a limited region. It used to be that all sublicenses were North America only, but lately Sentai has been getting US, Canada, UK, Ireland, South Africa, Australia/NZ, and sometimes Northern Europe. But if there is an obstacle to getting any of those, Sentai is obviously going to focus first and foremost on getting the North American home video rights for Section23.

Heck, for Magi not getting to Australia/NZ, it could be any of the three.

So its possible that the international licensor has one Asia and West Pacific division and one Atlantic Nations division, and so English Language rights for US, Canada, England, Ireland, and South Africa are being handled by one office and English Language rights for Australia/NZ are handled by another office. AOD puts in a bid for the UK/Ireland rights, that leaves US, Canada, South Africa available.

Its possible that AnimeOnDemand was the main licensee for the streaming rights and they counted on being able to sublicense to Crunchyroll when they put together their bid. They'd know they have to pick up North American English rights for Crunchyroll to be able to take the sublicense, and they'd have obtained the South Africa rights along with the UK and Ireland rights (because South Africa is the third "English Speaking Country" in DVD Region 2), so they'd have South Africa available ... but if they didn't bid for the Australia/NZ rights, they wouldn't have them available to sublicense.

Or maybe Madman or Siren has expressed an interest, but are not especially interested in simulcasting it, so they are proceeding on a home video distribution pace. They wouldn't be in any particular hurry to finalize those negotiations, because they wouldn't get home video material until around the time of the Japanese home video release.
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So I guess this Magi is like Record of Lodoss War, except instead of copying D&D they copy Exalted.
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Posted 10/5/12
Why are you not streaming little busters!?
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Posted 10/6/12
why is it streaming 3 days later?
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I have to wonder why UK subscribers are charged the same as US subscribers, when they get far less stuff to watch.

It doesn't make sense in any possible way, and is, you could say, a scam.
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The one that I was really hyped for this season, MAGI, isn't even available in my region :(
Looks like fansubs are my salvation
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Posted 10/6/12
cruchyroll should have the anime detective conan
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Posted 10/6/12

mendo_shutaro wrote:

I have to wonder why UK subscribers are charged the same as US subscribers, when they get far less stuff to watch.

It doesn't make sense in any possible way, and is, you could say, a scam.

US subscribers were charged the same in 2009, but got less than UK subscribers do now. According to your logic, our price should have been steadily increasing.

The simple fact is that anime isn't licensed on a set cost per subscriber, with no other costs involved. Taking a look at your own UK service (Anime on Demand) and how much they were charging before this season, and how little they delivered should give you a better idea of the cost effectiveness of delivering streaming anime to the UK.

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Posted 10/7/12
ah! can't wait to watch Magi~
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Posted 10/7/12
Magi looks like it could be really good. The other series look pretty bad, but perhaps they will surpass my expectations.
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